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Hello! so i have noticed some awesome guides on here for pve and pvp, but i figured i would toss one up for how i do stuff as well (even though alot of it is the same as most builds). This will be a work in progress over the next few days and and casually updated thread for as long as i play the game, because hey now, min maxing is sweet, and it takes a ton of work, and much respect to @Amstel and @Mashinate and @xBlackroxe and others for their build guides as i share alot of similarities and took a lot of ideas from theirs first, but i am a realist, i dont have the time, or the skill to hit those top numbers in dps. So im going to write a mini-guide for each style that i have played which includes Dps, Tank, and Healer in PVE. I am working on a dps loadout for pvp but will not be updating tanking/healing for pvp.
*****My goal with this build is to have very accessible body gear, fairly accessible jewelry price wise, and rare use of spell power pots to keep cost down with zero grind time and still attain respectable results in each roll for running things like dailys and trials.*****
LEVELING:
[spoiler]It is my opinion and the opinion of most other end game players that it is very important and save alot of time by leveling all skills, armor types, and weapon types while getting up to max level, so you can adjust and change your build and you see fit without having to grind the skills later. To this end i actually started as a stamina build, my attribute points went 2/1 stam/health. i tried to wear 5 pieces of medium 1 light and 1 heavy just to level up each armor type as i played. you want to keep 1 skill from each nightblade tree on your front bar, (this includes the ult) i decided to level dw/bow first. around level 10 i unlocked my first ult, and started to level 2h as well. at level 16 i started using crafted sets. i went with 5 Nights Silence/3-4 Ashen Grip. as skills maxxed, i rotated them out to always maintain 3 weapon skills and 3 class skills at all times. this allowed me to have all my class skills, melee weapon skills, and all the passives leveled to 50 right around level 50/vr1. At vr1 i respecced to magicka. all attribute points went into magicka. My armor choices became 5 Light 1 medium and 1 heavy. I had crafted armor remade every 2 VR levels and it was always 4 Magnus/4 Mara. if you ever plan on tanking i recommend slotting a skill or 2 on your bars from 1h&s as well. mandatory skills leveling for me were: Tornado, snipe, funnel health, cloak (to get out rid of aggro for a moment) concealed weapon, Sap, lotus fan, path, and impale. best ult for solo is easily soul tether. Please feel free to ask questions about leveling if you feel i didnt cover what you need to know.[/spoiler]
RACE:
I am Dunmer, i feel this is absolutely the best race for a nightblade for the casual player and the min/maxer magicka build. You can effortlessly switch between magicka and stam builds with ease, gain some extra resist, and our inferno attacks hit the hardest for weaving.it is in my opinion also the best race for magicka nb tank. I PLAY NON VAMP ATM. HOWEVER THIS IS RECENT, THIS BUILD DOES WORK WITH VAMP. I CURED BECAUSE NONE OF THE SKILLS WORK WELL ENOUGH FOR ME ON MY BARS TO JUSTIFY THE REGEN NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO SLOT A SKILL TO GET IT.
Champ Points: 443 currently
My champ points stay the same regardless of the roll i am filling or if im pve or pvp here they are:
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DPS: UPDATED!!!!
PVE:
[spoiler] With my current setup i can pull over 24k dps if im decent on rotation PLUS OVER 10K HEALING PER SECOND, and for the average/above average player for all practical purposes, i feel like anything over 15k is very respectable for most groups. i dont think grinding for any of the helms is worthwhile unless you want to eek every bit of damage out of your rotation and you have a dedicated group that is all on top of their game. my dedicated group completes everything as long as both dps do over 15k and the tank and healer contribute some as well. i buff with Max hp/mp food and use THE THIEF mundus.
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Unbuffed:
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Buffed:
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My current bars for dps for trials (using pots) are setup as follows:
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Bar1: Merciless Resolve, Elemental Blockade, Cripple, Funnel Health, Inner Light, ULT- Shooting Star
Bar2: Impale, Dark Shades, Proximity Detonation, Sap Essence, Inner Light, ULT- Soul Harvest
My current bars for dps for dailys (no pots poor mans build) are setup as follows:
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Bar1: Merciless Resolve, Elemental Blockade, Cripple, Funnel Health, Inner Light, ULT – Shooting Star
Bar2: Impale, Degeneration, Dark Shades, Sap Essence, Inner Light, ULT – Soul Harvest
My rotation for trials usually goes like this:
Mr>pot>prox det>shades>shootingstar>ha>blockade>ma>cripple>ma>fh>ma>fh>ma>fh>ma>blockade>ma>cripple>ma>fh>ma>fh>ma>fh>ma>Mr proc>(end 1 rotation) ma>mr>ma>blockade> etc etc etc keep repeating till execute, i reuse shooting star as it comes up, and reapply shades as needed, during execute i use Soul Harvest when its up between implales.
My rotation for doing dailys, and using no pots goes like this:
Mr>shades>ha>blockade>ma>cripple>ma>fh>ma>degeneration>ma>shooting star>fh>ma>mr proc>ma>mr>blockade>ma>cripple>ma>fh>ma>fh>ma>fh>repeat bar one only. i only re-use degeneration for the start of execute phase. for execute, after applying degeneration spam impale and use Soul Harvest as it come up
Again this is nothing new, as pretty much all mageblade pve dps does this or somthing similar. [/spoiler]
PVP: outdated, updating soon
[spoiler] In Pvp i actually run a couple builds that i run on my group size or solo play, but the armor is use is identical to my pve armor and it works VERY well (albeit a little squishy). I buff with tristat regen drinks, vr15 health potions, and THE ATRONACH mundus. my typical is either destro/resto or dw/resto. i typically run destro/resto when im in a group and dw/resto when im playing solo. With the regen numbers you see i can sneak permanently and never drop ANY stam, and my Magicka is rarely below 60%. I have not once needed a pot for stam or magicka with my playstyle.
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Destro/Resto:
The idea behind this is more group orientated, i usually try to play sidelines and pick healers/other nightblades to target, unless i catch someone trying to escape to regen health then anyone is fair game. keep up back bar buffs, weave heavy attacks with funnel, and keep cripple on them to drain stam, at low heath i lotus fan>soul harvest/dawnbreaker and that almost always finishes.
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Bar1: Dark Cloak, Lotus Fan, Cripple, Funnel Health, Mass Hysteria, ULT- Soul Harvest (or Dawnbreaker of Smiting)
Bar1: Blessing of Restoration, Mutagen, Harness Magicka, Double Take, Piercing Mark, ULT- Shooting Star
DW/Resto:
This is my solo loadout, and i wont go into details on how i play it, but its very similar to everyone elses pvp builds that are magicka based, only i dont use ward. if you want a great pvp build to take i recommend my guildmates build which can be found here: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pvp-magic-nb-orsinum/
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Bar1: Dark Cloak, Lotus Fan, Cripple, Concealed Weapon, Mass Hysteria, ULT- Soul Harvest
Bar2: Blessing of Restoration, Shadow Image, Harness Magicka, Double Take, Piercing Mark, ULT- Shooting Star [/spoiler]
HEALING: updating
PVE:
[spoiler] Most important sentence: You can have have an extremely rewarding and much faster run playing with a nb healer who knows how to use their class, but it will require THE WHOLE GROUP to play the game correctly, this means synergizing, paying attention to mechanics, ground aoe, and overall not being lazy players.
Healing is imho the funnest roll to fill as mageblade because it is the most challenging. Why then do you ask dont i run healing more often? simple: in the current meta, templar healers are almost always what people want that roll filled with, its amazing to join group as healer and be immediately dropped from group under the explanation “ive run with a nb healer and it was horrible” or “nb healers suck” or “i need shards” or “i need repentance”. Well here is the truth on those statements. There is a real argument for needing shards and repentance for stam users, although if they are good with resource management it usually is not an issue. People that say they have run with nb healers and did not like it are most likely lazy players who do not synergize things, do not block certain mechanics, and do not pay attention to ground aoe. NB healers are the second most powerful healer in the game, in my opinion more powerful in some cases. Sure we dont have BoL, or the major regen skills, but we bring a massive dps gain to the group WHILE healing with the same skills, we can provide excellent mitigation ult (better than templar imho), we have access to better regen and our healing ultimate does a good sized heal and gives a great buff. The important thing to remember is at times there can be quite a bit of bar swapping, and it is a very active build, you cant just stand around and spam skills, you have to try to keep everyone grouped to benefit from all the heals.
I actually use the exact same gear for healing as i do for dps. 5 Julianos/3 Torug’s the only difference is i run destro/resto staves of Torug’s Pact nirn/precise.
My bars look like this:
Bar1: Impale, Blockade of Fire, Refreshing Path, Sap Essence, Inner Light – ULT-Shooting Star
Bar2: Combat Prayer, Healing Ward, Mutagen, Funnel Health, Inner Light ULT-Veil
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TANKING: updating
PVE:
[spoiler]This Tanking build is now current, and is usable in all content afaik, it has not been used in trials, and likely wont be as i now almost strictly tank in trials and i do it on a stamina based nord templar.
For gear i am in V16 purple 5xTwiceborn/5xFootmans/2xNightsilence all divines. 2xhp glyphs the rest are stam. I use max hp/mp food and run pots as needed. Mundus is Lady/lover.
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Bar1: Structured Entropy, Pierce Armor, Refreshing Path, Funnel Health, Shades ULT-Shooting Star
Bar2: Structured Entropy, Inner Fire, Siphoning Attacks/Double Take, Sap Essence, Caltrops, ULT-Veil [/spoiler]
DPS SCREENSHOTS:
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VIDEOS:
First 2 Vicp bosses
Elden Hollow Speed Run
Sanctum Full Run
Banished Cells Speed Run 4 Dps No Healer I tank last fight
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